MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:04 pm
When sharing the truth with others of our identity, heritage and history it is not always well received. It takes time to process this truth in entirety and to accept it.
The BIG question is So What – What Does It Change Knowing This??
You will certainly get pushback and there will be some resistance, the following are statements and questions I get from people of faith and nonbelievers.
• Salvation is through Yahshua, so this changes nothing.
• How does know this impact our salvation and spiritual growth?
• Does this change the plan of salvation?
• Our true identity is the Mashiach so why does it matter what my identity is in the natural?
• Does this change who YAW (God) is?
• Why is this important now, we already have a relationship with Yahshua Mashiach (Jesus Christ), so what does this matter?
• How does this change us?
• What do we need to do to walk in the truth?
• So, what now?
We will explore and attempt to answer these questions as well as others.
If you can relate and if you have had these questions posed to you, your feedback is appreciated.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:15 pm
Some people aren’t ready to accept the truth and God has to do a work in their heart. Some will not accept the truth because they don’t love the truth and it doesn’t line up with what they would rather believe.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm
It always surprises me how many are defiant and utterly reject truth and what His word says. I could understand if I was approaching them with a false doctrine, but I am presenting truth and they do not want to accept it. It really shows the state of our heart and where we are spiritually.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Profound! The Truth has no bounds,and because it is not a Lie the power of it is healing generational curses that could not be remedied in any other way. The enemy hates that. This was not supposed to happen. We were meant to stay in perpetual darkness on his system,because they are in darkness and they hate the Light.
MemberSeptember 7, 2020 at 9:41 pm
Some people just don’t know the scriptures enough to understand the importance of being a Hebrew. Remember, they are INFUSED through and through with Christian doctrine so no, nothing is important to them, just the fact they are “In Christ.” I don’t press people anymore, I deliver the information once and if they see they see and if they don’t they don’t. Yahuah chooses US, not we Him. Yahuah brings revelation and understanding into people if He so chooses, we can’t force it into them. I give people the liberty to….not care or understand.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:16 pm
My greatest fear was not acceptance from strangers but my biological family,they have shut a brother down. I feel like an island more or less,however YAH in His Mercy has brought me into a new household of His Chosen Children. Our Abba never fails His servants when He knows we are in a sunken place because we are doing His will.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:46 pm
Shalom Yom Sheni,
I share your sentiment praise to YAH my family is awakening. It hasn’t been easy conversing with individuals you considered your brothers, sisters, elders and ministers in this faith who now look at you as if you are deceived. I was accused of consuming a diet of half-truth and that my studies and research is futile. Abba is faithful and I pray your strength on the journey, @Dante books and his teachings online (Youtube) changed everything. This came at a time when I really needed more to confirm what I believe, this was also how I learned about @teotw YAH always makes a way and is always on time.
MemberAugust 23, 2020 at 4:00 am
I am sorry. I am sure this is huge test for you. I just wanted to drop you 2 verses so you can be encouraged in this journey, lonely journey for most of us: Marc 3:31-35; Mathew 10:34-38; Jeremiah 3:14.
May our Father Yah bless you
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:43 pm
I don’t understand why it is difficult for others to accept the truth. I have shared the truth with my family, and only very few accepted it. My brother-in-law, a gentile, does not accept it all. He told me he does not care who the chosen people are and that it doesn’t matter. He said the true children are all who love Jesus, and there is no such thing as “His chosen people”. The truth hurts. The truth will always be!
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 1:52 pm
The truth hurts. It take humility to accept the truth. I think a lot of gentiles will have a hard time believing it because it messes up everything they were taught about their place as a sort of “ chosen” people in this world that they’ve believed for so long. Everything good is white and everything bad is black. To find out that Jesus is black and the people are black has to be a shock on a lot of levels. This dying to self thing hurts but in the end it brings peace. I don’t perpetuate that any nation ( no such thing as race) is better than the other for the Bible says we all fall short of the glory of God. But truth is truth. Why is it so hard for some to accept ? Because it’s a bitter truth for some to swallow. It doesn’t just reveal Israel’s identity but tears down false identities and the thoughts in the heart that have been prevalent for so long. And some people would rather not deal with that. It’s always interesting to me to hear people say it doesn’t matter but all these years when false Jews were widely accepted as the people there wasn’t any fuss or stink made about it. Everyone accepted this and prayed for Israel.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 2:32 pm
You are absolutely bang on and correct, you articulated that very well it couldnt have been said any better my sister.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 3:42 pm
If we are the tree that the Gentiles branches are grafted-in, it’s our roots that sustains; this was established from Genesis 12. God specifically chose us and we are not engrafted onto their tree. YAH warns the gentiles in Romans 11:18, to not boast against us, there is no ’replacement theology’ here. YAH has not replaced us, but he has gathered those Gentiles who have accepted Him, grafted them in and they are now a part of the salvation plan.
because of our transgressions and rejection of Yahshua, our eyes were deemed to make room for the Gentiles until their time has been fulfilled.
In Romans 11: 26 It shows that YAH is true to His promises, true to His covenant as it says that all Israel; not all Jews but all Israel will be delivered and will be saved!
Also, if you look at Revelations 12 you will notice it seems, that God only makes provision for the Hebrew nation during the tribulation.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 4:18 pm
I now understand that revelation comes to everyone differently and not necessarily at the same time.
My journey awakening consisted of me being angry, frustrated and overwhelmed trying to process all of this.
Angry, because I bought into this lie and that I was so deceived. I wondered why I didn’t wake up sooner to this revelation or why my pastor was not teaching this!??
My heart was bitter towards our oppressors, I actually started thinking are a certain group of people inherently evil.
Eventually, I realized that Satan is the culprit here, he’s a master manipulator and liar as he takes this very seriously. Whoever makes themselves available to him, he will use them and It doesn’t matter your race.
This truth has given me peace as I am being taught patience and true love, to allow this revelation to happen organically by the leading of Abba to those whose eyes the scales are being removed.
My focus and goal is to achieve unity, first within my Hebrew community, to strengthen the body, for us to grow spiritually and to impact the world.
Next, is to reconcile broken relationships with the Gentiles within our body (who’ve accepted Yahshuah) caused by systemic racism and trauma, because we all have to accept the truth it’s not one-sided.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 10:54 pm
Thanks that was beautiful!!!
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 2:17 pm
Thanks for sharing those pearls flowing from your beautiful Hebrew mind. There isn’t any that can compare with yours.
MemberAugust 17, 2020 at 10:49 pm
I have had the question asked of me, what does this change? My response was that it is my heritage, and who I am. We have been taught for so long that we didn’t exist. I read the Bible with a new perspective and not as a gentile or outsider. This is our black history and those stories we read about are our ancestors. For me, I truly see how Y’shua has always loved me with a special kind of love. That I’m apart of the Hebrew nation that he chose above all others. That I’m apart of the true vine and not engrafted in. This changes everything because it gives me pride, self-respect, self-worth, and a true appreciation for what the Lord has done. Apostle Paul said in Romans that the gentiles where chosen to provoke us to jealously. What lengths the Lord will go to prove his love. We have such a reach history, heritage, lineage, and legacy like no other nation. I can raise my children with a new mindset and teach them about our black history and ancestors. Circling back to answering the question, what does this change? It literally changes everything!!!
MemberAugust 18, 2020 at 2:14 am
MemberAugust 18, 2020 at 3:27 am
So what is an excellent question! However, there are questions you must have answers to prior to answering the so what question. For instance, what is salvation biblically? If Israel was the Most High’s chosen people, what where they chosen for?
Only after having answers to those questions can you answer the so what question and show why a savior was needed for Israel in the first place.
The first thing I did was I pulled every single verse from scripture where the terms saved, salvation, delivered or deliver was located and adequate a running list for each. I then read each of those verses in context to the chapter they where written in. Understand that this encompassed several dozen verses for each of those words throughout scripture.
What I had to conclude based upon the context was that salvation literally means being able to obey the Most High freely, while in the confines of a promised territory (homeland) and free from oppression and captivity from one’s enemies.
This is very different from what Christianity teaches, which is that if you say a few lines related to the sinners prayer, that you will go to heaven after you die. I honestly could not find anywhere in scripture with an honest inclusion of context where it says salvation is going to heaven after you die.
Secondly, what did the Most High chose Israel for? The answer is pretty simple!
“For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession. The LORD did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt.” (Deuteronomy 7:6-8)
“You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:1-2)
The Most High calls Israel to a higher standard, precisely because of his unique revelation and choice of them. Just as a judge might “make an example” out of a police officer who turns criminal, Israel serves as an example and a lesson to the world.
The curses and punishments in Deuteronomy promised to Israel if they fail are eye-watering in their severity and extremity, yet most fulfilling when in proper covenant as listed in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28:1-15.
Psalm 147 declares:
“He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for no other nation.”
So in essence, it is and was Israel’s Job to be a light and a beacon on behalf of the Most High so that all the other ethnicities and Nations desire what Israel has, which is the Most High himself.
So this is the so what. The Messiah restored Israel’s condition in order to be in perfect covenant again with the Most High. Now that this is the case, Israel is in a position to carry out its trustee duties to the Most High and bring others to the Most High’s promises as they were originally instructed to do.
If you are Israel and you are not doing your duties, then the so what has dire implications for you, just as it did for our forefathers who fumbled their duties, which was to be righteous (lawful) and a beacon reflecting Our Savior Ha Mashiach!
Hope this helps!
MemberAugust 18, 2020 at 10:07 am
Your comment absolutely helps.
I appreciate you taking the time, to break down your approach to getting a deeper understanding of this truth and what it means.
I sometimes become intimidated and overwhelmed, when I’m speaking to a minister or an elder, with respect to the truth of our heritage, nationality and the revelation that I now have. The way you’ve answered it was simply perfect, and I would be confident giving an answer like that. I will continue in the word and ask YAH for more revelation as I journey on the path.
MemberAugust 18, 2020 at 10:19 am
Thanks for the breakdown! Puts so much in perspective.
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 1:17 pm
I think that the word salvation doesn’t tend to be understood. When I read it in scripture, it seems to be talking about protection provided by The Most High. For example, the Hebrew men in the furnace survived because of salvation. Daniel survived the lion’s den through salvation. Jonah survived the belly of a whale for three days through salvation. The Hebrews were a feared army because of salvation. The Wisdom of Solomon 5 goes deeper into salvation for Israel:
1 Then shall the righteous man stand in great boldness before the face of such as have afflicted him, and made no account of his labours.
2 When they see it, they shall be troubled with terrible fear, and shall be amazed at the strangeness of his salvation, so far beyond all that they looked for.
3 And they repenting and groaning for anguish of spirit shall say within themselves, This was he, whom we had sometimes in derision, and a proverb of reproach:
4 We fools accounted his life madness, and his end to be without honour:
5 How is he numbered among the children of God, and his lot is among the saints!
I hate being argumentative, but we watched 400 years of Gentiles having salvation. Salvation couldn’t be obeying The Most High freely. However, they spent those years conquering and treating every other nation in whatever way they wanted without real consequence. Over the last few years, we have started watching that same salvation fall apart. The Strong’s pretty much calls it protection as well:
MemberAugust 18, 2020 at 10:54 am
Knowing who we are shows that we are liars and the Words of YHWH are true.
Why do Is say that?
Well, our forefathers made an oath at Mount Sinai that they will do and obey all the commandments of YHWH.
YHWH our Elohim told Moses that they would not obey him and prophesied to them and their children.
Our forefathers and their children and their children’ children handed up fulfilling all the curses written in the book.
The knowledge of this true ALSO helps you to see the ETERNAL mercy and love of YHWH. And everything about us, is already written. It written for us to go into captivity and we did, it written for us to return to YHWH and we are, and it is written for us to obey all his commandments and we should.
MemberAugust 19, 2020 at 9:08 am
Thank you all for the great commentary. Hope you are all well. So, how would you respond when a gentile, coming to the truth, apologizes to you for the things done in the past and currently going on with our people? Do you think they are apologizing just for finding out the truth and that they wouldn’t have cared much if it wasn’t for the truth? Just sharing what my friend recently asked me…
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 8:29 am
I would respond by telling the gentile to repent, fear The Most High and keep his commandments, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, encourage their friends and family to do the same and pray without ceasing.
MemberAugust 21, 2020 at 4:45 am
The so what part, and what do we do now?…
Now that our ancestry and heritage has came back to us in the lands of our captivity by TMH power, the first thing we must do as a people is
1. Prayer with supplications: we need to Pray and ask God for direction without depending on worldly knowledge as a people. It’s an impossible task in my opinion to get everyone on code, so we must ask God to change our people’s hearts 💕 in order for God to deliver us from the wilderness of nations. (Ezekiel 20:35)
Supplications – means BEGGING ON HANDS AND KNEES TO GOD BEGGING HIM TO SAVE US. A good example of prayer with supplications is this music video:
In the this song 🎼 This boy 😭 out to the most high God. At the end God allows the Gentile to have compassion on the Hebrew boy. There was no protest, no voting 🗳, no LGBTQ 🏳️🌈, no president, nation, economics 💰, no military, or anything that could save This young Israelite’s life except The God of Abraham, Isaac, and, Jacob.
WHILE PRAYING WITH SUPPLICATIONS WE NEED TO REPENT OF OUR OFFENSE TO THE MOST HIGH GOD.
We are the Israelites, which also means our ancestors as a nation of people had Rejected 🙅♂️ the Son of the Living God Jesus Christ. We need to repent of worshipping other gods and rejection of the messiah. Our people are starting to return to worshipping African traditional idols and things that had us sent into bondage from the beginning. I pray God has mercy on his elect remnant and that HE will remember US who do not bow down our knees to Baal.
MemberAugust 21, 2020 at 5:48 am
Amen and a resounding AMEN, your comment is confirmation. Thank you for taking the time to reply as I really appreciate it and it lines up with what YAH has been saying to me.
Shalom and Peace🙏🏾
MemberAugust 21, 2020 at 9:05 pm
Matthew 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Matthew 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
MemberAugust 21, 2020 at 10:11 pm
The fact that we are Israelites is important because we are the twelve manner of fruit that the tree of life bares. Be like a tree planted by the rivers of water that brings forth fruit in due season.
MemberAugust 21, 2020 at 11:34 pm
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 11:02 am
Awakening at the age of 60 is hard living amongst die hard christians, I have something to live for now, and genuinely feel good about this truth
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 11:40 am
The biggest thing is to realize once we know WHO we are we know WHY we, as a people are in the situation we are in.
“Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.”
(The curses laid out in Deuteronomy 28:15-68)
Now we have instruction on how we turn this situation around
Deuteronomy 30:1-5 KJVA
“And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee, and shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; that then the 👉🏾Lord thy God will turn thy captivity👈🏾, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: and the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.”
So when we began to live by the Instructions (Law) he has given us he will turn our captivity and notice that it is tied to the return of Mashiyach t be our King HalleluYah!!
This is what has driven me because I know that there is hope and I know what the direction is Mashiyach has given us His example that we are to follow and his spirit to guide us We just have to accept it and follow.
1 Peter 2:21-22 KJVA
“For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: who did no sin[1John 3:4 defines Sin], neither was guile found in his mouth:”
YHWH has shown us who we are
YHWH told us what we need to do to inherit blessings beyond our thoughts
YHWH showed us how to do it
YHWH gave his Ruach to guide us
That’s LOVE!! And we reciprocate that love by obedience to his LAW (1John 5:3)
MemberAugust 23, 2020 at 6:26 am
I appreciate that you have taken the time to reply with a well thought out answer you have unpacked this very well my brother.
Thank you, you were clear and this helps to bring understanding which is obviously key in this walk. 🙏🏾
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 8:57 pm
I Think it is in layers. everyone does not “Awaken” at the same time. So we have to be patient and prayerful for others who don’t get it.
MemberAugust 22, 2020 at 9:07 pm
I totally are with you my brother as that is my exact sentiment.
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